Epic fail: Dorit Reiss and friends try to discredit ‘Turtles’

Dorit Reiss wrote a post trying to takedown the book “Turtles All The Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth”. When the post comments got way too embarrassing, they simply deleted the comments. This is now apparently how science works.

In order to defend the narrative, censorship is required so that people never see the “bad” material in the first place. When that fails and “bad” material is published, they write a hit piece full of errors. When those errors are pointed out in the comments section of the article, they just delete the comments.

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This article by Steve Kirsch, shows just how flawed the hit piece was and how they needed to censor comments to avoid being exposed.


Steve Kirsch 17 MAY 2023

Real scientists don’t censor people who point out flaws in their work.

Introduction

A week ago I challenged David Gorski on Twitter to publish a rebuttal of the superb book Turtles All the Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth. Mr. Gorski is, perhaps, the most prolific of the shady vaccine propagandist blogging network that I have come to know (and disrespect) the past couple of years.

In my tweet I wrote that nobody was able to find a single error in the book, and their only option is to “debunk” stuff they made up about the book, which, as you are about to read below, was spot on.

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If you haven’t read Turtles yet, then I strongly suggest you do so. I’ve read numerous books on vaccines in the past three years and, to me, this one is clearly the best of them. Actually, I consider it one of the best books I’ve ever read. One nice thing about it is that it cites only “established” sources, so the vax propagandists cannot dismiss it out-of-hand with their usual lazy ad hominem attack on dissenting doctors and scientists whose work is referenced. And since the authors are anonymous, they cannot “debunk” the book by smearing them, either.

This clever move worked like a charm, as the “anti-antivax” crowd could not find any productive attack against the book in the 10 months since its publication. Their head honcho, Mr. Gorski, specifically, was apparently stricken with a bad case of literary impotency – not unexpectedly, as his rants are typically 90% ad hominem anyway. If that angle is taken away, nothing much of substance is left for him to write about.

Their backs were pushed against the wall by my tweet, and with their lead propagandist sidelined due to his ad hominemitis, his friend, Dorit Reiss, took it upon herself to face the dreaded Turtles.

In a post hosted by notorious blogger Michael Simpson (a.k.a. Skeptical Raptor), a pharma employee by his own admission and a Gorski clone, Ms. Reiss took her best shot at the book.

Comments on the article were blocked and deleted

I followed and contributed to the discussion in the post’s comments section, which after a day or two, had become rather interesting, with comments being deleted and a commenter blocked by Mr. Simpson, the blog’s moderator. In the middle of the skirmish was a user named “Zander” who apparently challenged Ms. Reiss on her claims too effectively, dissecting her arguments methodically and rebutting them mercilessly. Unsurprisingly, it wasn’t long before the moderator, Mr. Simpson, blocked Zander from commenting and deleted some of his/her already published comments without any explanation whatsoever.

Why wasn’t Zander allowed to continue debating Ms. Reiss? Was it because he was pulling the rug out from under her feet too successfully?

[Below is the message Zander wrote to me, slightly edited]

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Dear Steve,

Thank you for the opportunity to share my experience of this bizarre encounter with Dorit Reiss and Skeptical Raptor.

Here’s a brief description of the turn of events following Dorit’s post about Turtles:

On reading the post I immediately saw the numerous errors in it. It was obvious this was a somewhat desperate attempt to smear the book that utterly destroys the vaccination narrative that Reiss so passionately protects.

Here’s a screenshot of my summary of my first three engagements with Dorit:

Knowing that she was losing the debate badly – and that I promised to continue refuting her claims – she made her final, cowardly move: She muted me! Now, I couldn’t see her comments, and she couldn’t see mine. 

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Summary

I wouldn’t be surprised if Gorski, Simpson, Reiss and the rest of the pro-vax propagandists reference Dorit’s post trying to claim they were able to find faults in Turtles.

However, the despicable, dishonest and cowardly manner in which they suppressed legitimate criticism of the post, tells you everything you need to know.

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